Comments on: Green Fuel in Goldfield, Iowa http://www.sprol.com/2006/05/green-fuel-in-goldfield-iowa/ Worst Places In The World Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:18:08 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Zac Aldridge http://www.sprol.com/2006/05/green-fuel-in-goldfield-iowa/comment-page-1/#comment-430385 Zac Aldridge Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:45:46 +0000 http://www.sprol.com/?p=341#comment-430385 Widespread knowledge is the catalyst for sustainability. As long as people understand how important alternative energy is, the majority will become impassioned by it. The only people against the green revolution are Republicans and oil industry executives. Consumers far outnumber them. Widespread knowledge is the catalyst for sustainability. As long as people understand how important alternative energy is, the majority will become impassioned by it. The only people against the green revolution are Republicans and oil industry executives. Consumers far outnumber them.

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]]> By: Terry Gump http://www.sprol.com/2006/05/green-fuel-in-goldfield-iowa/comment-page-1/#comment-8732 Terry Gump Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:48:53 +0000 http://www.sprol.com/?p=341#comment-8732 are they hiring at the ethanol plant in goldfield iowa? are they hiring at the ethanol plant in goldfield iowa?

]]> By: likwidshoe http://www.sprol.com/2006/05/green-fuel-in-goldfield-iowa/comment-page-1/#comment-6859 likwidshoe Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:46:52 +0000 http://www.sprol.com/?p=341#comment-6859 <i>Since this is the administration that turned the Clean Air Act into the Clear Skies Initiative, while lowering the standards of environmental safety that energy companies are required to uphold...</i> Not exactly. The way it was set up before, many upgrades were an all or nothing proposition. One couldn't make incremental and cost effective upgrades to grandfathered plants without doing a complete overhaul of the entire plant. You can guess what happened. The "Clean Air Act" often produced the exact opposite of its stated intent. Plants didn't upgrade. What Bush did was to remove the all or nothing proposition and allow the incremental upgrades. But I'm not sure that matters to you because you've got your soundbites and it sounds good. Bush "lowered the standards" and you stop there. Since this is the administration that turned the Clean Air Act into the Clear Skies Initiative, while lowering the standards of environmental safety that energy companies are required to uphold…

Not exactly. The way it was set up before, many upgrades were an all or nothing proposition. One couldn’t make incremental and cost effective upgrades to grandfathered plants without doing a complete overhaul of the entire plant. You can guess what happened. The “Clean Air Act” often produced the exact opposite of its stated intent. Plants didn’t upgrade. What Bush did was to remove the all or nothing proposition and allow the incremental upgrades.

But I’m not sure that matters to you because you’ve got your soundbites and it sounds good. Bush “lowered the standards” and you stop there.

]]> By: James Freeman http://www.sprol.com/2006/05/green-fuel-in-goldfield-iowa/comment-page-1/#comment-2704 James Freeman Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:29:35 +0000 http://www.sprol.com/?p=341#comment-2704 Reply to Gary Dikkers: "The real question is why the ethanol industry needs to use ANY fossil fuels (whether natural gas or coal) to make fuel alcohol? They say over and over that making corn ethanol returns more energy than it consumes. If that is really true, then why don't they use some of the ethanol they make as their energy source for making more ethanol?" Ethanol is a cool burning fuel. Perfect for internal combustions engines, since energy isn't wasted creating and removing excess heat. However, ethanol is not an efficient fuel for the boilers and cooking the mash required for ethanol production. The ethanol refineries would probably burn more ethanol than produce. On the other hand, natural gas and coal burn very hot. The same reason stoves and barbeque grills use natural gas and coal. Reply to Gary Dikkers:
“The real question is why the ethanol industry needs to use ANY fossil fuels (whether natural gas or coal) to make fuel alcohol? They say over and over that making corn ethanol returns more energy than it consumes.

If that is really true, then why don’t they use some of the ethanol they make as their energy source for making more ethanol?”

Ethanol is a cool burning fuel. Perfect for internal combustions engines, since energy isn’t wasted creating and removing excess heat. However, ethanol is not an efficient fuel for the boilers and cooking the mash required for ethanol production. The ethanol refineries would probably burn more ethanol than produce.

On the other hand, natural gas and coal burn very hot. The same reason stoves and barbeque grills use natural gas and coal.

]]> By: Reverend Blair http://www.sprol.com/2006/05/green-fuel-in-goldfield-iowa/comment-page-1/#comment-1659 Reverend Blair Wed, 17 May 2006 15:07:46 +0000 http://www.sprol.com/?p=341#comment-1659 Alternative fuels such as ethanol can be clean. That they aren't is a testament to the failure of governments and corporations to act. Instead they prefer to sell us a fantasy. The energy used to power the plants could be derived from clean sources...wind power, hydro-electricity, solar power, etc. As much as I hate nuclear, they could even make a case for that. Clean production should be a requirement. Alternative fuels such as ethanol can be clean. That they aren’t is a testament to the failure of governments and corporations to act. Instead they prefer to sell us a fantasy. The energy used to power the plants could be derived from clean sources…wind power, hydro-electricity, solar power, etc. As much as I hate nuclear, they could even make a case for that. Clean production should be a requirement.

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